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Update on Surprise Speeding Tickets in the Mailbox

When I got together with a Tucson friend yesterday my first question was about the photo-surveillance cameras used here; then a ticket is mailed to the citizen-criminal. I was concerned about tardy payment penalties being added to the speeding tickets of travelers who only get snail-mail forwarded every month or two.

My Tucson friend has indeed gotten a camera-based ticket the past year, and his wife got three. Each was over $200. Hers were at the same intersection, but on different days, which helped her think that they were repeated notices of the same "crime". (She didn't read the dates or times apparently.) She didn't pay all three tickets and got her driver's license suspended.

The good news is that the Tucson reich sends somebody to your house before raising the stakes. At another time they called on the telephone. What a relief that was. It keeps the citizen-criminal from being completely at the mercy of snail mail delivery, which alarmed me the most.

How will they handle an out-of-stater? 

So far, I've tried to relate the facts with a minimum of spin. Obviously I can't keep this up or I'll bust! Let's back up to the big picture: in a democracy politicians get reelected (for an entire lifetime, typically) by promising key voters (in organized constituencies) benefits, freebies, and goodies at somebody else's expense. Democracy was pretty satisfied with this arrangement for a century or so.

But then this arrangement became passe. Democracy took the next step up in its evolutionary progress: it started promising even more goodies at nobody's expense; that is, it learned to just borrow money for whatever goodies it takes to get reelected.

Ever since the financial turmoil started in 2008, states needed to become more innovative. They couldn't just raise taxes; the voters were too accustomed to free lollipops. So the states had to step up penalties and fines as a stealth tax increase. Imagine the "revenue enhancement" that just one of those surveillance cameras produces. It probably pays for itself on the first day. And it will never get sick or need a pension. If I were a donut shop owner, I'd start looking for a new line of work.

Comments

Unknown said…
A *truly* intrepid blogger would haul ass through one of these cameras to get the firsthand story on how they deal with out of towners. You know, take on all the heat and expense so the rest of us don't have to...
5:31 AM? What sort of monster have you become? Oh wait a minute, that would be 631 in your time zone. But still...
XXXXX said…
Your "stealth tax increase" theory is probably correct. The one I love is that when someone overdraws on their debit card, the bank sends them a letter which takes a few days to get delivered. By then, the person has made several more purchases. I mean, when you call the bank, you get an automated system, but they don't choose to use it for overdrafts now, do they? Somehow it's better to pay the postage?
Paul said…
Nearly ALL fines associated with traffic law enforcement are merely revenue sources. Of course, some violations are more serious than others but, for the most part, the violations are niggling little ways to generate an income stream. They do nothing to prevent or curtail the behavior they punish.

It's interesting to sit in traffic court for a few hours, to watch the assembly line of revenue flow. Usually 2 sessions per day, 5 days per week and the place is always packed. That doesn't count the people who just give up and pay the fine without going to court or even all the simultaneous satellite courtrooms spread around a heavily populated area.

I'm about to make a statement that will seem like speculation but, it is fact. No one can drive a vehicle on a public roadway for more than 1/4 mile without doing something they could be fined for. A wheel an inch or two too far one way or the other, a turn signal a few feet too soon or too late, a mile or two per hour too fast OR too slow. Then, there are all the equipment violations one might inadvertently commit. That is how screwed up the laws have gotten.

Now, with the advent of mechanical enforcement, it's barely safe to leave the house. It has almost become a case of needing to protect ourselves from the state.

One of my favorite videos on the subject - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHZMoPV1rog
Paul, it was interesting to read your insider experience.
Paul said…
Thanks Boonie. I'm almost ashamed to admit I was once a part of it but, that was a whole lifetime ago and an entirely different era. Things are different now and I don't like it... at all!

Hell, I wasn't particularly fond of it all then. It was just a job, not unlike being a garbage collector.

Now that I'm on the other side of the fence, I'm happy to share what I can, insight wise, to try to help keep others from getting caught up in the quagmire that has become our "system."

I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but I still kinda know my way around and know what I can get away with and what I can't. I toe right up to that line... as often as I can.
Ted said…
I know I'm clear of such warrants, for the moment, each time I pass through an internal border inspection station. They *do* arrest folks with warrants and they have your vehicle checked through the system before you pull up to the stop. All those cameras, you know.
Ted, It's nice to know that the Department of Homeland Defense is protecting Amerika from hardened criminals with unknown and unpaid speeding tickets.
XXXXX said…
I have recently learned that starting in 2013, every house sold will be subject to a 3.8% additional tax, on top of everything else that the seller pays, which is considerable. Apparently this is part of the Health care bill. I bring this up because it relates to this post in the sense that the govt is looking for all sorts of ways to increase revenue without direct taxation. The problem is, the way I see it, that we have become this country where, as you say, everybody is used to getting things for free and now we have to start paying the bill. I honestly can't think of any way around this except this "in the back door" way because the 2 parties have polarized around direct taxation and so now they cannot compromise without looking like they are giving in. Heaven forbid!
George, I didn't know about that house surcharge. But at least there is a certain rough justice to it: what would the selling price of the house be without government subsidies for real estate, bank bailouts, Fannie and Freddie and FHA, the mortgage interest deduction, etc?

But yes, stealth tax increases are the growth industry for the next couple decades. Fortunately the ultimate one, carbon tax, has been avoided so far.
Unknown said…
Cmon guys. You really don't believe that there will be a sur tax on house sales. That would be a good way to mess up a legislators re-election.

Searching the internet found numerous hits including a few of the viral emails that started the whole discussion. The fact from FactCheck.org: "The truth is that only a tiny percentage of home sellers will pay the tax. First of all, only those with incomes over $200,000 a year ($250,000 for married couples filing jointly) will be subject to it. And even for those who have such high incomes, the tax still won’t apply to the first $250,000 on profits from the sale of a personal residence — or to the first $500,000 in the case of a married couple selling their home."